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17 | | === 3.1. Providing a crisp definition of "Updates" (Adrian) === |
18 | | |
19 | | There is confusion amongst authors about what "updates" means. They point to many cases in history where it has been used to mean "provides an optional extension to". |
20 | | |
21 | | Barry, Robert, and I all think it means "provides a normative update to". That is, if RFC Y updates RFC X, then all new implementations of the protocol specified by RFC X are supposed to implement RFC Y as well. |
22 | | |
23 | | Setting aside our amazement that we have gotten this far with no written definition of "Updates", is it time to make a clear an unambiguous statement for all *future* uses of the meta-data? If I did so based on Barry/Robert/my understanding, would that be approximately right? |
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25 | | Ron's proposed definition is attached. |
26 | | |
27 | | === 3.2. MANIAC Challenge at IETF-87 in Berlin (Adrian) === |
28 | | |
29 | | A group of folk are considering running an event they call "The MANIAC |
30 | | Challenge" (http://www.maniacchallenge.org/). This is essentially interop and |
31 | | demonstration of some of the IETF's ad hoc routing protocols (see the MANET |
32 | | working group). They thought that the confluence of people at IETF-87, together |
33 | | with the location, might turn out well. |
34 | | |
35 | | I've been over the very high-level stuff about not detracting from IETF work, |
36 | | and the conclusion is that the few days running up to IETF-87 might be good. |
37 | | Probably the Saturday and Sunday. |
38 | | |
39 | | This takes us on to the next steps which are to see whether the location and |
40 | | price would be suitable. If not, they might still pick those dates, but might |
41 | | find another location in Berlin, for example the University. |
42 | | |
43 | | I am talking to Ray. Does anyone have any concerns? Is there anything else I |
44 | | should do? |
45 | | |
46 | | === 3.3. Brief discussion of the shepherd writeup proposal (Barry) === |
47 | | |
48 | | Since there's time, I'd just like to chat briefly about Stephen's and Adrian's comments, and solicit others. |