Opened 11 years ago

Closed 11 years ago

#150 closed defect (fixed)

Ben's Review

Reported by: ben@… Owned by: lear@…
Priority: minor Milestone: milestone1
Component: draft-iab-rfc3356bis Version: 1.0
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Couple of comments on this document.

In Section 3.2.2:

ITU-T study group Chairmen can authorize one or more members to
attend an IETF meeting as an official ITU-T delegate speaking
authoritatively on behalf of the activities of the study group (or a
particular rapporteur group).

"rapporteur group" is used in several places but nowhere does the document describe what a rapporteur group is, e.g. is it akin to an interim meeting is is it another name for a ITU-T Question, etc?

Section 3.2.2 goes on to say:

Note that,
according to IETF process, opinions expressed by any such delegate
are given equal weight with opinions expressed by other working
group participants.

I think what you're trying to say is something like "The ITU-T is treated as an 'individual' (in the IETF sense) and opinions expressed by the official ITU-T delegate are treated as thought they were made by the ITU-T"

I don't particularly like the use of "equal weight", although I don't have a specific text suggestion to replace it, because I think it could be interpreted as implying all individual opinions have equal weight (which could be interpreted as akin to voting) and I don't think we do treat all opinions equally in IETF (and neither should we).

Normally I wouldn't care about such things but as the document is likely to be read by ITU-T participants who are maybe (due to the way ITU-T works) more familiar with voting than rough consensus it would probably be sensible to reference an appropriate RFC that talks about what "individual" and "rough consensus" means in the context of the IETF. I wouldn't want to see this document being used as a stick to beat WG chairs with if a WG chair were to declare that the opinion of the official ITU-T delegate was "in the rough".


Change History (1)

comment:1 Changed 11 years ago by lear@…

  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Status changed from new to closed

We've added the definition of a rappoteur group, and changed the tense to clarify text based on your 2nd comment.

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